Wednesday, 5 June 2013

Tina Frauberger Crowns Revisited

Do you remember this post when I first made Tina's crown edging?  I then modified the crowns and scaled the edging down in this post as I didn't like the big empty spaces in the original or the very large ring in the centre.

I recently had comments and questions on this edging so I thought I'd revisit it.  I had always wanted to tweak it anyway as the curve wasn't quite right on the top of the crown and it still needed improving slightly overall.

We are very lucky that Tina's books are available online, both her 1919 Schiffchenspitze and her 1921 book (many thanks to Georgia Seitz).  I therefore think it is ok to share my version of it.  I had been asked before so I'm pleased to do it now.

The green and pale blue are made in Altin Basak 50
The purple is made in Lizbeth 20

I tried lots of different things on the green and purple versions, even extending the bottom chain so that you could use it to join to fabric but then I didn't like the space it created so I went back to the shorter chain.  I'm showing you these as they came off my shuttles, not pressed or blocked in any way so some of the rings are crooked... I just quickly scanned these samples as they were!

I've discovered something though whilst making this:  when making a thrown ring or a Josephine Knot, there is a tendency for it to flop about (too much for my liking, especially if it's not subsequently attached to anything) but I found that if, after making the TR or the JK, you start the chain again with the 2nd half of the double stitch first, it adds a lot of stability to the element.  Makes tighter, neater work.

So on this edging, after both the bottom and top TRs and after the JKs, I did that though it is not marked on the pattern.  I leave that up to you to choose to do this or not.  Try it and see what you think.    So the blue version is the one I wrote the pattern for - I used a JK on the bottom chain but you could use a small ring as in the original Tina version if you prefer.  The rest is all very similar to the original pattern, just smaller!

 


Ok, nothing fancy for this one, I'm just going to write the pattern right here in this post.

TINA FRAUBERGER CROWNS
Scaled down by Frivole

R10vsp10, rw
C3-3, TR3-3-3-3, C3-3, join to vsp
C3, TR4-4, C3, TR4vsp4, C3, TR4-4, C3, LJ to base of R10vsp10, rw
C3-6+*6-6, LJ to vsp of centre small ring below, TR3-3-3-3, C6-6, TR3vsp3, 
C6-3, LJ to vsp of R10vsp10, rw
C4-4, JK12, C4-4, rw
Repeat from beginning.

* This join only applies on subsequent repeats, not on the first.

Hope you enjoy making these small crowns and hope there are no mistakes, do let me know if you find some and I'll correct the pattern.

Best wishes,
Frivole

20 comments:

  1. Thanks, Frivloe.

    Might just be the trick for the Heraldic Hankie.

    I found some Valdani quilting thread (#80) in a sort of gold/green slightly variegated that seems to blend with the thin coloured bit around the outside of the hankie. What do you think of that colour? The pink looks odd against the gold border.

    Black is too heavy.

    I think this border is perfect, and it would take a bit of time to finish... keep me out of trouble!
    Fox : )

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    1. You are right Fox, I think it would be great for your heraldic hanky - how neat that I bring this pattern back out just when you receive your unusual hanky... serendipity?

      About the colours, it can be hard to make suggestions from looking at a computer screen so I understand if you say the pink or the black are wrong. From looking at it, they were the two colours that stood out the most for me.

      Shall I work a corner design for it? You may be able just to stick two crowns together without the bottom chain and that might do the trick... but I'll look into it if you're interested.

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    2. Went to look at your hanky again, yes I see what you mean, about the slim gold-green border... that would look nice and in size 80 would be great.

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  2. I like this version very much. It is a pretty edging. Thanks for the pattern. You have a wonderful sense of patience to tweak patterns that are good, but aren't quite perfect. Thanks for taking up the challenges.
    Fox, this would look really great on the Heraldic hanky.

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  3. Beautiful ending!
    Thenak you for the pattern.

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  4. Thanks Frivole, I've saved your pattern. Thanks for the tip about the josephine knot too. I've just realised I should save it at the bottom of the pattern, otherwise I'll forget to try it!

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  5. Thanks for sharing your version of the pattern! I like your idea for making the Josephine knot less floppy. I think I'll give it a try!

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  6. Jane Eborall's technique of incorporating a tiny picot on the chain before the thrown ring, so that it can be joined at that spot, would be helpful; you'd have to put the second joining picot onto the ring itself, of course, on the second side, and join the chain to that.
    Would that work do you think?
    Although, on a hanky edging, it just might make it all too stiff.

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    1. I often use that technique also Maureen but it does change the look slightly and I didn't want that in this particular design. But thank you for mentioning it!

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  7. Ohhh that's really pretty! I love it!

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  8. LOVE this! Am bookmarking this to tat....

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  9. Love this little edging and will try it out, thanks for sharing it. Your crowns are so perfect hope mine turn out the same.
    Margaret

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  10. Hi! I love this edging it is beautiful! I am really new to Tatting and really have only gotten the needle tatting down so far. Is there a needle tatting version for this or can this be either and I just haven't read enough patterns to recognize the terms?

    Thanks, Rachel

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    1. Hi Rachel,
      I can do a bit of needle tatting but I'm not a needle tatter so I don't know how to do all the techniques myself. Needle tatters tell me they can do any pattern with a needle so this should be do-able too. The only thing I don't know how to do on a needle in this pattern is a thrown ring... the rest is just regular rings and chains. Do you know the website "In Tatters"? There's lots of needle tatters there who, I'm sure, could answer your questions.

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    2. Oh I have heard of that site I will have to try it out. Thank you so much for your response! I love your modified version. I Think it is prettier than the original ( but I still love Tina's designs :). I am really wanting to make a bookmark out of this motif I will have to head on over to that website. Thank you so much again!

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    3. Yes, Tina has some great design but most of them are on quite a big scale I find (large rings and long chains). I hope you find the answers you're looking for at In Tatters!

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  11. Hi! I found this lovely pattern, and wanted to give it a try. I am fairly new to tatting, and I started this with one shuttle off the ball. I immediately got into trouble on the first TR. Is this pattern for two shuttles? I tried googling TRs or JKs, and somewhere it said that JKs often where used in vintage single shuttle patterns, so that means it is doable with only one shuttle. But I just haven't found out how to do it. Could you please clarify if this pattern is for two shuttles? Thank you for all your lovely work :)

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    1. Never mind, I have now used two shuttles and this pattern is awesomely pretty! Thanks again ;)

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    2. Oh Dear, I'm so sorry Siri! I meant to answer your message when I saw it then got side-tracked... and didn't get back to it. But yes, if there are thrown rings, you would need two shuttles.
      Glad you are enjoying the pattern. :-)

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